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Monday, February 13, 2006

Etc...

  • Yes, i know but i still choose to be detached from Indian cricket [read as SRT]. Yes, even after today and the first two matches. You never know... [Feb 14 Update: Indhaa! ]
  • Got my Canon IXUS-D55 digital camera finally. Small. Good
  • Why do people [especially in the blogosphere] judge a statement or information by the source and not by the merit of the info itself? Especially if it has anything to do with The Hindu, starting with 'com', left, muslim and so on??? I really wonder. A wall of cultural, economic and political prejudice. An impregnable wall at that.
  • Is it just me or is Chennai not as hot as it ought to be at this time of the year?
  • What gift do we give President Bush when he comes visiting us?

17 Comments:

  • >>What gift do we give President Bush when he comes visiting us?

    A copy of "Thiruvaasagam in Symphony". If not anything, just to hear him say 'Thiruvaasagam', 'Maanikavaasagar', 'Isaignani' and 'Ilaiyaraja'.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Mon Feb 13, 11:46:00 PM  

  • "Why do people [especially in the blogosphere] judge a statement or information by the source and not by the merit of the info itself? Especially if it has anything to do with The Hindu, starting with 'com', left, muslim and so on??? " -- because most of the times u never know the ground reality... its only through the media u get these info and its best to take these info with loads of salt and skepticsim... and i think thats one of the main reason u judge the statement by the source...

    By Blogger NaiKutti, at Tue Feb 14, 08:18:00 AM  

  • >>Is it just me or is Chennai not as hot as it ought to be at this time of the year?

    kandippa. i was abt to write it. neenga mundhikittenga
    :)

    By Blogger expertdabbler, at Tue Feb 14, 11:18:00 AM  

  • Manoj,
    LOL :)
    Naan Osama mama kitta edhavadhu vangi tharalaamnu nenachen...

    naikutti,
    On the contrary, i think its because of blindly believing the MSM [except The Hindu, which they won't read even if their lives depended on it] that they got this prejudice in the first place. MSM and Uncle Sam propaganda....

    PK,
    So it is true...... :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Feb 14, 11:56:00 AM  

  • "Why do people [especially in the blogosphere] judge a statement or information by the source and not by the merit of the info itself?"

    ->There are several reason for this:

    1.By nature Indians are suckers to the Demonization/Lionization concept. They wait for a Superman(Gandhi, Bharatiyar, Kalam) to solve their problems and wont move a finger to solve it themselves. Thus it's always once-a-hero-always-a-hero(Rajini) or once-a-villain-always-a-villain(veerappan - there are 100s of veerappans running scot-free in parliament). The middle ground does not exist in their worldview.
    2. Secondly, we are faddists for whom peer opinions matter a lot. We simply lack the spine to stand by our convictions. Forget about convictions, we dont even lack the guts to search for truths in contrary opinions. "What will four people think?" is the driving factor. When any fad comes(bashing a paper/glorifying the past while pissing on the present/indipop/navel piercing), the naive yuppies jump into the bandwagon and call it the best thing since sliced bread.
    3. Fear of losing readership - there is a certain smugness in seeing the hit counter click :) After carefully cultivating a regular readership by playing to the emotions why should one foolishly ruffle feathers and spoil things?

    Point 3 refers to a small minority only.

    By Blogger The Talkative Man, at Tue Feb 14, 12:13:00 PM  

  • You think Hindu judges a news item based on merit?
    How is it that if Communists form an alliance with congress in centre, and against them in state it is a move to keep the communal forces out. But if JD(S)-BJP tie up then it is opprtunistic and end of democracy?
    When Hindu is leaning so much towards the left, natrually people tend to associate the paper as a communist propoganda
    Let them be neutral as they were before, and then lets see what people say!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tue Feb 14, 12:32:00 PM  

  • Bala (Karthik), just for the discusssion, can u define what do u mean by the "merit of the info"... unless u r on the ground, trying to find all the information and assuming u have the time/patience to listen to all the arguments, u cannot find out what the actual cause/info is... so unless u are close to reality, the merit cannot be judged by listening to MSM...

    once u hear the opinion/info second hand, whoever be it, a little amount of biasness adds to it... it is very difficult to get an unbiased view about an event thru MSM...

    By Blogger NaiKutti, at Tue Feb 14, 02:02:00 PM  

  • Ferrari,
    Commies' enemies have always been both the Cong and the Hindutva terrorists [aka BJP] and its obvious why they lent "support" to the Cong at the center. And BJP is the last party to talk about the thics of alliances, center or state.

    Secondly, a newspaper is merely a reporter of facts, except for the editorials and the op-ed section, which generally carries the opinion of the paper. I guess its these two pages [opinion/op-ed] that every Hindu-basher is talking about. Papers like TOI, DC etc have junk all over the other pages, leave alone the editorial. So, when the bashing is reserved exclusively for the Hindu's editorial, that shows a marked lack of sense of proportion IMO.... Nothing wrong in bashing, but bash consistently is what i'm saying...
    Even if i didn't like The Hindu's leftist leanings i wouldn't find anything unduly wrong with their other pages of info, unlike The Slimes Of India and the likes...

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Feb 14, 02:57:00 PM  

  • naikutti,
    "just for the discusssion, can u define what do u mean by the 'merit of the info'... "
    If you know the history of Uncle Sam, you will see that they have always cooked up enemies and demons [who often actually turn out the be victims of Yankee atrocities]. First the native Americans, blacks, the working class, then the COMMIES, and now Muslims/terrorists.
    Since all of us are affected by Yank propaganda, we tend to get conditioned into thinking that the Yanks are indeed noble messiahs of world peace.

    Let's take the statement "We invaded Iraq because they have WMDs stocked up". LIE. "We invaded Iraq for their liberation". BIGGER LIE. They were the biggest pals of Saddam since the time he was gassing the Kurds.

    To answer your question specifically, when The Hindu carries an article focusing on the emergence of independent thought, economic and foreign policy in Latin America, [independent = free of Yankee interference], the people i'm talking about just dismiss the article and the notion as though they knew better than the people of the countries involved. Why don't these people talk about the role of CIA in the drug cartel,U.S support for murderers and dictators, and plunder of resources of other countries instead of just bashing up commies?

    Note: When i refer to Yanks, Uncle Sam, US i'm talking about the U.S Power sphere/Govt/Foreign Policy and NOT America or its people in general.

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Feb 14, 03:08:00 PM  

  • *,
    Agree with all 3 points :)

    To add to your points, there's also this practice of the media [mainly the electronic] to place personalities above the issues and policies...

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Feb 14, 03:12:00 PM  

  • i totally agree when u say that info abt. lot of agenda items are mis-reported or forced to mis-report by the US power spheres u r talking about...

    i was thinking u r talking in general abt. MSM and didn't quite realize abt. people doing "The Hindu" bashing... i personally think Hindu is one of the few papers that gives a less biased info...

    By Blogger NaiKutti, at Tue Feb 14, 04:06:00 PM  

  • Am not even thinking of slimes as a newspaper. Its a TOIlet paper!!

    Since you are a communist supporter yourself, you will really find it strange why people are questioning about ethics of hindu :-) It happens

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tue Feb 14, 04:08:00 PM  

  • Ferrari,
    "Since you are a communist supporter yourself, you will really find it strange why people are questioning about ethics of hindu :-) It happens"

    Since you're a supporter of imperialism, your stand doesn't surprise me at all. Yes, it happens :-))

    naikutti,
    adhathaan solla vandhen :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Feb 14, 04:16:00 PM  

  • Imperial sonna enakku hotel nyabagam dhaan varadhu Bala ;-)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tue Feb 14, 05:29:00 PM  

  • Being an apolitical guy who believes every politician is a leech irrespective of the color of his party flag, I am curious:

    1. what basis does the educated Indian middle class guy(EIMCG) use to build his like/dislike of capitalism/communism? Is it based on
    a. What the capis/commies did to his grandfathers 200 years ago?
    b. capis/commies' opposition/glorification of religious beliefs?
    c. Does the EIMCG have a strong foundation in the basics of macroeconomics, the resource distribution and revenue potential of the country and how well the capi/commie model of the former can work when applied to the latter?

    Unless religion is pulled out of politics, India will suck bigtime for another 200 years and will keep up with the Tanzanias, Somalias, Rwandas. You read it first here.

    By Blogger The Talkative Man, at Wed Feb 15, 04:18:00 AM  

  • Ferrari,
    Are you talking about the Imperial Palace hotel in Brigade Road junction??? :-))

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed Feb 15, 03:35:00 PM  

  • *,
    First of all, the dichotomy itself is wrong.
    i.e, anyone who opposes one is wrongly slotted under the other 'camp'.
    The success or failure of models lies in how the country following it has done over a period of time. Is the gaping economic gulf merely incidental or is it by design?There is more to it than mere FDI and Sensex figures.

    "Unless religion is pulled out of politics, India will suck bigtime"
    ABSOLUTELY! Not only from politics but from every sphere where its a hindrance...

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed Feb 15, 03:57:00 PM  

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