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Friday, December 01, 2006




  • dei anonymous potta baadu... ooatha aambalayaa irunthaa, un real identity reveal pannudaa pottai...

    By Blogger karthikeyan, at Sat Dec 02, 06:34:00 PM  

  • Following up on the discussion we had in the hub, I really wonder why Kamal insists on those scenes that we had talked about..
    1) It drives away a major portion of the crowd who may watch it otherwise
    2) It forever taints the movie in some respects. For Example, people still talk about the Rani Mukherji instances when discussing Hey Ram!,they simply miss the point the film was trying to make..
    I for one didnt like the instances in Virumaandi as well, I believe that love can be picturised in several other ways..Whats your take?

    P.S: Why do you allow such crappy anon messages?

    By Anonymous Ulaganayagan, at Sat Dec 02, 08:35:00 PM  

  • /UN said:/I believe that love can be picturised in several other ways..//

    Why not this too ? In fact it is highly artificial to show only other instancs of gentle, tender companionship.

    In Hey Ram,the sex scene with Vasundara was absolutely central to the film. And that with Rani was, placed amid several scenes that established the extent of warm companionship in their marriage. In fact the scene itself was positioned (no pun intended !) to shock us with what was to follow immediately.

    To leave it out and rest content with painting, shopping,piano, cooking-experiment-gone-wrong, and motorcycle riding alone, would have been extremely artificial.

    The instance in Virumaandi is not supposed to be of aesthetic appeal to the cultured urbanite (who has been offered the gentler lotus-pond
    sequence). The crude but genuine love of the rustic bumpkin was brought out really well in the cheeky guffaw and Annalachumi's token resistence.

    As always Kamal is the only one who is willing to dare.

    That said, the Marudhanayagam trailer seemed to have an overdose of baring, ironically when everyone was under the impression that it was a 'costume' drama :-)

    By Anonymous msp, at Sat Dec 02, 11:39:00 PM  

  • Anonymous son of anonymous fathers,
    unga appan per dhaan theriyaadhu, OK... un peruma??

    aambalaya?adhuva? vaippe illa :)

    1) msp said it all
    2) however, it WILL drive away a section of the crowd...
    "Nee emadhu mannil pirandhadhu emadhu bhagyam endrum, engal mannil nee pirandhadhu ugal durbaghyam endrum...."

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Sun Dec 03, 11:26:00 AM  

  • it really taints the reputation of the movie in tamil nadu... thalaivar should avoid these scenes...

    By Blogger karthikeyan, at Sun Dec 03, 12:02:00 PM  

  • did i miss something in the video.. what is the objectional scene everyone is talking about.?

    By Blogger Ravi, at Mon Dec 04, 03:33:00 AM  

  • Bala,
    I have thought about the point that ulaganayagan has made....Isn't it true that people do get weaned away because the "sex" scenes in Kamal movies....I even remember people getting pissed off with the kissing scene in Mahanadi.....Now I am not justifying such stupid comments from people...But isn't it a duty of the filmmaker(especially someone as commited as Kamal) to make people watch his movies...If he is really commited to improving the level of Tamil films, shouldn't he first try to improve the level of audience's taste...(after all Kamal is one of the few film-makers who do not underestimate the intelligence of their audience.)....A superb movie(in most aspects) like Hey Ram was only talked about for its steamy sequences..same too with KuruthiPunal... And Kamal's reputation from his older(pre Nayagan) movies too don't help.
    Kamal is very bold and makes serious effort to present non-diluted movies (unlike the master diluter Mr Mani Rathnam)....
    But sometimes I do think that may be if he does with such scenes, his work would reach more people...

    By Blogger Sridhar(mutRupuLLi), at Mon Dec 04, 12:27:00 PM  

  • Nice find! Sometime back I remember seeing some stills of 'Marudanayagam' in another blog.

    I have many times felt that like Rajni got caught in his 'style-mannan' cage, with Kamal it was his 'Kadhal mannan' cage (and an extension of his hollywood obsession)! But having said that I am unable to sit thro' any of the tamil film songs programme on TV these days without squirming when among company. In that way, those scenes in Kamal movies come atleast at appropriate situations.

    By Blogger Me too, at Tue Dec 05, 07:39:00 AM  

  • Marudanayagam video??????
    Aahaa, I cant see video from office....Bala, pls tell me. is this a new trailer? Does tat mean, Marudanayagam shooting has resumed???? Who's the female lead in the steamy scene, u ppl r talkin about?

    By Anonymous RK, at Tue Dec 05, 09:13:00 AM  

  • Ha!Ha! Matter scenes-nala tamizhan/tamizhachi kamal padam paarka maattangalam!
    On the contrary, being a Kamal fan is a convenient excuse for several
    matter fans(who care a hoot about art and aesthetics). These are the people who insist that they watch kamal movies for the 'art' inspite of the matter scenes - while in reality it is the vice versa:-)
    I dont think anyone would avoid watching a movie because of these scenes - it is the other way around - people will go and watch and then say "chee, chee, he could have avoided this but otherwise the film was great, wasnt it?"!
    Idhellam too much - thamizhnattula ippadi prudish-aa people pesum bodhu, eppadi thaan thamizhnattula 6.5 kodi janangal porandhanganne doubt varudhupa!

    By Anonymous raj, at Tue Dec 05, 01:23:00 PM  

  • BTW, Why is VV not dubbed into telugu?
    I've been in Hyd for 8 years and not a single Kamal movie is missed out in Telugu. I cant remember a single movie after Avvai that hasnt been dubbed?
    And this one had Harris Jayaraj, quite a popular guy these days in Andhra, and Gautam Menon is known too. Still, this wasnt dubbed?

    By Anonymous raj, at Tue Dec 05, 01:49:00 PM  

  • Quote by Raj:''I dont think anyone would avoid watching a movie because of these scenes - it is the other way around - people will go and watch and then say "chee, chee, he could have avoided this but otherwise the film was great, wasnt it?''

    Pls name a few Kamal movie that became hits despite objectionable content...Even those that succeeded like KP and Virumaandi would have done a lot better without the kissing scenes IMO..What you say might apply for male audiences that complain about obscenity in movies, but its not the case with most 'Thai Kulams'. Its a fact that Kamal lost a good portion of his female/family audience post KP. (more so after Hey Ram!)

    By Anonymous Ulaganayagan, at Tue Dec 05, 04:10:00 PM  

  • "Pls name a few kamal films that were success inspite of o bjectionable content"
    1. Sakala Kala vallavan - you cant get a worse cruder titiliating film than this and you cant show me a bigger hit in Kamal's career:-)
    2.Avvai Shanmughi - several of Kamal's female getup antics wre vulgar, to say the least.
    3. You say Kurudhi Punal would have succeeded minus the jilpaans scenes with Gouthami. Yet, Devar Magan which had even more jilpaans scenes with the same Gouthami was a bigger hit - presumably, I saw an unedited version and you saw a sanitised version of Thevar Magan. Problem is you are assuming that KP would have been a bigger hit minus those scenes.

    Again, it is a fallacy to believe that only males go for matter scenes. Women also have biological needs and desires. Maybe, they cant openly go to matter theatres for mattter movies but it would probably surprise you, but I am pretty sure they too enjoy well-made love scenes. And if a movie combines this with a good screenplay performances etc, no woman would have inhibitions watching with family.
    Why else would Vaali be a hit?
    Somehow, tamizhnattu males want to believe that women exist only to satisfy their bilogical needs when they, the men, feel like expressing it.

    By Anonymous raj, at Tue Dec 05, 05:02:00 PM  

  • Well, showing cleavage or dancing in 2 piece bathing suits are pretty much accepted in Tamil Cinema,That kind of thing has been going on for long..What I am talking about ,is the kind of love-making scenes that we saw in Hey Ram! and KP..That kinda thing is a strict no-no..I don't wanna go into women's biological desires here..The point I am trying to make is that there are still a lot of women folk (and men too) who would refrain from seeing films with the kind of content that I am referring to..And Kamal has been steadily losing that section of audiences..

    By Anonymous Ulaganayagan, at Tue Dec 05, 05:50:00 PM  

  • "The point I am trying to make is that there are still a lot of women folk (and men too) who would refrain from seeing films with the kind of content that I am referring to..And Kamal has been steadily losing that section of audiences.. "

    I agree with Ulaganaygan...... quite often you would find women folk especially in what are called the B and C centres not going to Kamal movies....Even Kamal would not disagree that he does not have much of following in that circle...

    By Blogger Sridhar(mutRupuLLi), at Wed Dec 06, 01:54:00 PM  

  • All, just a reminder of what KH said during the felicitation function for J during her rule - for getting rid of thiruttu VCD or whatever.

    Naangal Vyaabaarigal

    The most honest statement he has made till date. It almost sounds like a slip of the tongue. Interesting, eh ?

    Naan ingirundhu escapeu ...

    By Anonymous BNB, at Wed Dec 06, 07:55:00 PM  

  • enna Bala Sir, annan padam 100 naal thaandi odittirukku! pesaama ukkandha eppidi?

    By Anonymous RK, at Thu Dec 07, 08:13:00 AM  

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