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Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Appeal to reader msp

msp aka Prabhu Ram,
Please start your movie blog at the earliest.
nEyar viruppam




  • Bala,
    msp mail id irukka? Naan romba naala avara thedittu irukken

    And I have been following the Aandavar news from you regularly. Dasavatahram eppo release theriyuma?

    By Blogger Prabhu, at Tue Apr 24, 12:31:00 PM  

  • "msp mail id irukka?"
    illai Prabhu, hence this post.

    " Dasavatahram eppo release theriyuma?"
    August 15 - tentative

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Apr 24, 01:06:00 PM  

  • "Appeal to Bala"
    Soonapaana aka Bala,
    Please come back to hub at the earliest.
    neYar Viruppam

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tue Apr 24, 02:05:00 PM  

  • msp, mutrupulli, sridhar...indha moonu perum orey conpeesana irukku! Are they 1, 2 or 3 people?? Or 1 person posting writing 3 blogs???? Danks for the doubt clearance :)

    By Blogger The Talkative Man, at Tue Apr 24, 06:39:00 PM  

  • Anon nabare,
    atha vittu thallunga.. RR and NOV vida maattanungo :)

    msp = Prabhu Ram (1 person)
    mutruppulli/Sridhar (1 person)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Apr 24, 06:58:00 PM  

  • Bala

    Neenga illama hub kamal thread sutha wasteaa kedakku .....

    By Blogger feddy, at Tue Apr 24, 08:01:00 PM  

  • :flattered:

    Starting a blog is on the to do list for a while.

    inga orE dull adikkudhu. miga viraivil thAyagam thirumbigirEn. thirumbinE udanE mudhal vElai idhu dhAn.

    By Anonymous msp, at Tue Apr 24, 09:27:00 PM  

  • Feddy,
    Namma Thilak irukkaaga, PR irukkaaga, matrum namma uravinargalellaam irukkaaga... :-)

    vaango vaango :)
    Toronto thamizh singam annan MSP vaazhga!

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Apr 24, 10:32:00 PM  

  • msp,
    A question about MMKR:
    Of course it's a classic, but for sheer repeat value fun and laughs, which one would you prefer more - MMKR or Sathi Leelavathy, leaving the craft, the screenplay and the *effort* aside?

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue Apr 24, 10:34:00 PM  

  • MMKR of course.
    It is the only true start-to end-comedy.

    Sathi Leelavathi has some serious parts. The humour is centered around Kamal's presence. Till he enters things are a bit mild. Of course with enjoyable exceptions (like Thomas Cook Bagyalakshmi). But it switches gears only when Kamal enters and then on, some parts match MMKR in quality. But, because of the nature of the story, it is not possible to keep the viewers in a permanent state of orgasm.

    MMKR too takes of slowly, with slightly dull humour between AvinAsi and Madan. But thenceforth, it is no holds barred. I have seen it so many times, it is one of the films I can recall almost completely.

    It is like every single nook and corner of screentime was culled out and filled with humour.Even amid the fire-rescue we have screamers like: "vara vara annan thAikkulathai pAthA romba manasu irangidrAru" :D

    So even ignoring the craft aspects, for sheer content and laughs I'll still pick MMKR. It is heads and shoulders above any other comedy.

    By Anonymous msp, at Tue Apr 24, 11:47:00 PM  

  • [The question wasn't addressed in general, but, then what's there to blog-commenting without a bit of cross talk! Mannikkavum.]

    You've committed blasphemy. To compare MMKR with any other comedy, how much ever sublime it is (as the case is with Sathi Leelavathi), is like comparing God to a mortal.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wed Apr 25, 12:02:00 AM  

  • >> miga viraivil thAyagam thirumbigirEn. thirumbinE udanE mudhal vElai idhu dhAn. >>

    romba nalla seythi :) Looking forward for it :)

    SL is doing great against NZ :))

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Wed Apr 25, 02:14:00 AM  

  • msp & Zero,
    Sorry for blaspheming :(

    Maybe because i've watched MMKR more often than SL, i laugh just a bit louder for SL, though the quantum of jokes may be lesser.
    Guess its time to make SL catch up with MMKR and do my comparison :)

    "SL is doing great against NZ :))"
    Yeppo NZ first bowling nu paatheno appove outcome therinju pochu :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed Apr 25, 02:38:00 AM  

  • Bala,

    I've sent you a mail (antha yahoo ID active thaanE? ) Please check.

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Wed Apr 25, 02:41:00 AM  

  • Bala ,

    Ellarum irukagaa ana mappilai neega thanay... :lol:

    By Blogger feddy, at Wed Apr 25, 07:46:00 AM  

  • Namadhu Singapore Maavatta seyalaalar Annan Bala avaragal (bracketla karthik) karuthai muzhuvadhum Aamodhipadhodu mattumallamal, msp avargal blog thodangavillai endral, ingu madiwala-koramangala cooligal sangam saarbaga oru naal unna viradha porattam thodanga ulladhu enbadhaiyum arivithu kolgiren(last word not to be confused with 'killing')(whole thing to be read to be a Nirmala Periyasamy intonation)

    By Anonymous BNB, at Wed Apr 25, 09:32:00 AM  

  • a tad late, but still...MMKR is better than SL IMO. But SL had the swing. It has checkpoints while it keeps flowing in MMKR.

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Wed Apr 25, 10:43:00 AM  

  • Though I would place MMKR over SL anyday, I have this extreme fondness for Sakthivel Gounder.....and it has one particular scene towards the end when kamal meets heera to ask her to come to his house...when he delivers that
    "ammani naan solluratha kettu seruppakizhatti adichurakoodathu.."...The tone and the expression when he says that is simply amazing...

    By Blogger mutRupuLLi, at Wed Apr 25, 11:08:00 AM  

  • bnb,

    I live near Valluvar Kottam, the unnaaviradha hotspot of Chennai. Whenever some unnaviradham is stage a vadai seller appears in the recesses of the interior streets. So my respect for unnaviradhams is mild :-)

    However I disregard your disclaimer and read kolgirEn much the same way as Madhushree or Udit Narayan would say it.

    Though I would place MMKR over SL anyday, I have this extreme fondness for Sakthivel Gounder
    my favourite is the delayed "aniyAyamA irukkudhE...unga kudumbam sErndhA naanga edhukku mottai pOdaNum"


    By Anonymous msp, at Wed Apr 25, 07:26:00 PM  

  • mutrupulli,
    Bingo! I must have replayed that scene atleast 15-20 times when he gives the sermon!!! :) esp the part "panam eppa venalum sambaathikkalaam ...aana indha gowravam, nambikkai.. idhellaam...[sentence stops in the middle]"

    Semma delivery :) SL is vastly underrated coz it was comical, it was a definite masterpiece I thought.

    By Blogger The Talkative Man, at Wed Apr 25, 08:57:00 PM  

  • BNB,
    "whole thing to be read to be a Nirmala Periyasamy intonation"
    - There's this famous voice, aan kural-a penn kural-a nu conpeesing a irukkum... old-timer... Saroja something.. Can you throw more light plisss???

    mmm.. Probably the sedate pace and the unhurried (Balu M) characteristic that does it for me in SL. Oru timelesness, away from all the attention...
    Generally, you tend to enjoy humor more or laugh more if you watch a film in a theatre where the magnitude is amplified. SL is one movie where i've laughed as hard even while watching it at home

    Yeah.. "feelings" nenjula midhikkum scene :)

    And this one too:
    "kovam vandha enna pannuven nu theriyumello? aludhu poduven"

    "Whenever some unnaviradham is stage a vadai seller appears in the recesses of the interior streets"
    !! to actually *see* these things must be incredibly funny.. naan padathula dhaan pathirukken :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Thu Apr 26, 07:52:00 AM  

  • //There's this famous voice, aan kural-a penn kural-a nu conpeesing a irukkum... old-timer... Saroja something.. Can you throw more light plisss???//

    AIR news reader: Saroj Narayaswamy

    By Anonymous msp, at Thu Apr 26, 08:32:00 AM  

  • Bala,
    Can't be Saroja Devi - don't remember the name of that venkala thondai.

    BTW, I thought Daisy Bopanna was pretty good in the Kannada version - Might easily fit into a MMKR/SL type movie if it were to be made in Tamil.

    I should have said "Kaala Varaiyattra Unna Viradha Porattam Vedikkum" - Please take it seriously now ;-). Valluvar kottam - see how'kottam' lends itself by abuse by Madhushree types.

    Valluvar 'kottam' - Ingey dhaan damilu poet nalla dance aaduvaaru ...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thu Apr 26, 11:57:00 AM  

  • Bala,
    "aLudhu pOduvEn aLudhu!" he says! Sathi Leelavathi simply stands apart, among Kamal-Crazy comedies, be it the serene, unruffled narrative (quintessential Balu Mahendra), the understated humour or the spot-on performances (everyone's brilliant here). A comedy that doesn't scream that it's one. Well, a few pieces of dialogue and the climax -- like the above-quoted one, "thrust in" just for the laughs -- notwithstanding, most of the humour comes from slice-of-life situations, bearing that distinct tragicomic stamp of the best of Kamal's comedies.)

    But, MMKR is pure genius, frame by frame. A work of art that transcends many genres with seeming effortlessness. A magnificent revisionist take celebrating the great Indian genre of sons separated at birth -- kidding it, loving it, and ultimately transcending it (to steal Ebert's words for Kill Bill), an immensely delicious ode to great Hollywood (silent) comedies, and much more.

    If I take a dispassionate look at Indian commercial cinema, This'll be that one film that I'll pick to boast about to an international audience.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thu Apr 26, 12:43:00 PM  

  • Now back to msp,
    He wrote one of the most interesting comments in my blog for a post about 'Adaptation'. But that was longtime back. Prabhu Ram, yepidi unga-lAla ipidi yellam moodiyudu?? Hub-la solavae vendAm!! Please start the blog soon!

    Another fan request.

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Thu Apr 26, 10:27:00 PM  

  • bala,
    that was Saroj Narayan Swamy and my parents had that very same doubt when they were married! I think Vikatan cleared the confusion by publishing her pic :-)

    By Anonymous ttm, at Thu Apr 26, 11:58:00 PM  

  • Zero,
    "be it the serene, unruffled narrative (quintessential Balu Mahendra), the understated humour or the spot-on performances (everyone's brilliant here)."
    Another sample. Ramesh Arvind's apartment secretary
    "inga naai mattum dhaan allowed... mm manushaalum.."

    "If I take a dispassionate look at Indian commercial cinema, This'll be that one film that I'll pick to boast about to an international audience."
    (Eye-brows raised) Only this?

    Yeah Daisy was much better than Heera in RSB. Watched it twice in two days in Bangalore and the theater literally had a buzz whenever He was on screen

    Adaptation - unga/msp comments paathuttu dhaan naan paathen :)

    Adhe adhe! Doubt cleared :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Fri Apr 27, 06:41:00 PM  

  • Bala:
    RSB was a super-duper hit in Bengalooru across all age groups - a fact that's not very well known in TN. How many actors in TN or for that matter elsewhere can be an actor in successful movies different languages ? I am not talking about dubbed movies - movies made in 'X' language natively. Talk about learning a new dialect of a language, that he already knows - still it's not a joke.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sat Apr 28, 03:09:00 PM  

  • Bala,
    *If* I am asked to pick *one*, Bala. Even though I won't say MMKR is the best Indian film myself, it's the most enviable film for the world, in my opinion. In other words, the film that most deserves the much dreaded expression, "world class."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sat Apr 28, 03:56:00 PM  

  • RSB was a super duper hit across karnataka-a fact which hardly found a mention across Media in TN.

    BTW,if there is one Kamal film about which not much is spoken about it's 'Pesum padam'-Wonder why?

    It's a genuine classic&the fact that it's language independent makes it more fascinating.

    For eg:Knowledge of Tamil is absolutely necessary for enjoying MMKR&SL.

    Dig:Aus thrashed SL,Boy,am I happy(Sorry Roshan)

    A_A,read in the 'Hub'that Sir's next is getting finalized this week,any updates??

    By Anonymous Cinefan, at Mon Apr 30, 12:00:00 PM  

  • >>Dig:Aus thrashed SL,Boy,am I happy(Sorry Roshan)>>

    No probs even if you celebrate :-) It was nothing for us - at least for me :-) rain, 38 overs, appuRam maRupadiyum rain when SL was batting half way , then again reduced overs and finally the ending was an utter disgrace to the game. cricinfo-la ezuthiyiruntha maathiri - the entire tournament was - bad, ugly and terrible. The worst ever final in world cup history. Mattha sports kaaranga sirippA sirichirupaanga. They should change the rule - and make 50 overs a must for any finals and I also feel it would be better if they can have a "best of three" for the finals - 50 overs being a must. Anyway , we Sri Lankans are happy and contended with our team and no regrets for losing considering the circumstances and conditions. And definitely we are'nt going to take to the streets :-).

    Sorry bala for the dig :-).

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Mon Apr 30, 11:42:00 PM  

  • Zero,
    Got it! :)

    Pesum Padam - Pesa padaadha padam :(
    Chaplin would have been happy.

    About His next venture, Selva Raghavan peru sollirukkom, however, unlikely to be chosen. It's likely to be a very commercial venture (don't have high hopes). Fortunately and hopefully, not the time-filler PKS/5Tricks kind

    No prob :)
    To be honest, i wanted SL to lose!
    That said, they were easily the best team after the OZs. Infact, i thought they played really well in the final. They have every reason to feel proud :)
    About the world cup in general, it was a sick joke. Yuck.

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Tue May 01, 03:14:00 AM  

  • >> To be honest, i wanted SL to lose! >>

    This can be interpreted in different ways :-) Therefor may i know the reason why ?

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Tue May 01, 01:38:00 PM  

  • Roshan,
    1) I like the Australian team
    2)I've always thought Malinga was a chucker. Murali-um but his genius and naturally bent elbow discounts it

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed May 02, 08:05:00 PM  

  • Bala, maathi solreenga....muRaLi is the chuck-King. Bent elbow ellAm uttAlakkadi. There is a youtube video of Murali bowling legbreaks with a very straight arm.
    Racism vengAyamnu solli indha muraLi shoaib ellArayum kEkka aaL illAma pOyidichu.

    OTOH Malinga bowls with a straight arm. And he bowled like an angel in the final. Sangakkara and Malinga were the only consolations in the final. indha sappai final paakkuradhukku.. nanbargaLOda paarkka nappAsaippattu NYC pOyi bulb vaanginadhu dhAn micham :-(

    By Anonymous msp, at Wed May 02, 09:37:00 PM  

  • msp,
    ahaa.. andha straight elbow leg-break matter enakku theriyadhe.. konjam link irundha kudunga

    Malinga - straight arm but appadi paatha under-arm kooda straight elbow oda podalaam :)
    That said, i don't know what the rule book says, so there...

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed May 02, 09:46:00 PM  

  • Roshan,
    >> I like the Australian team >>

    Ok understood :-)

    >>I've always thought Malinga was a chucker. >>

    That doesnt warrant why you should be wanting SL to lose (just kidding). enakkum intha doubt irunthathu and I checked with a cricket expert and he explained me quoting the rules and cleared my doubts. Malinga's action is perfect.

    >> Racism vengAyamnu solli indha muraLi shoaib ellArayum kEkka aaL illAma pOyidichu. >>

    Then what about the numerous medical tests he underwent, that too in Australia and England? athellaam uttallakkadiyA? I would like to know your stand WRT to Murali with clarification. naan eppavO kEkkanumnu nenechathu after reading your response in guest thread at the hub. As regards the videos - how come the authorities are silent about it? I am sure they would have seen, analysed and assessed his action by playing many of his videos repeatedly before clearing him finally.

    Anyway neenga sonna maathiri sappai final-a paarthu nonthu pOnathuthaan micham. Half way throgh the match - inga LTTE air strike-nu rumour kelembi - match ellaam vittuttu we started browsing the net to check the cnn and bbc. appuRam never ending phone calls and text messages from all directions. orE allola kallolam. night poora thoongavillai. nalla vELai I was not in Colombo at that time.

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Wed May 02, 11:32:00 PM  

  • The series of arguments about Murali over the years are as follows:
    1) This isn't chucking, it's just 'different'.
    2) Why didn't Hair call Jayantha Silva who has a left arm replica action of Murali ? So he is calling Murali because he is a wicket-taker.
    3) Murali does not gain any advantage because of his action
    4) Would you rule out Ambrose because he has the natural advantage of being tall ? Similarly...
    5) Racism racism....
    6) ICC rule change: upto n degrees allowed at release velocity of x kmph at an inclination of (pi/n)^4* sqrt(x^3).....

    The chronological order will tell you the progress of the argument. The decline of logic and the victory of muscle leading to a rule where ICC outdoes itself.

    I don't buy argument 3. Anybody bowling in the backyard will get more turn with a Murali action. Saqlain's doosra is hard work and great control, Murali's is possible only because of his action.

    I admit I have no argument against 4. But something tells me the analogy is not valid.

    And post-Murali there has been a rise in the number of chuckers. Every one of Shoaib's bouncers is a blatant chuck.

    Mechanics clearance is all fine. BUt how exactly do yu match the action in the lab to the one on the field ? IMO if the umpire is not ok with it, it is a no-ball. There endeth the matter.

    And IMO the racism card, played initially by Ranatunga, has not done the game any good. I know that Aussies get away with lot of sledging and Bucknor is eager to nod when India bats et al. But on the whole, it is not as bad as it is made out to be.

    By Anonymous msp, at Thu May 03, 01:07:00 AM  

  • Where is our Chuckingdharan expert Dr.TTM ? Just when you need him he has dissapeared. I remember reading somewhere that during lab tests players were careful not to bend it. A lab test is very theoritical - no connecsun with what happens on the field. Adhaan konjam kavalaiyaa irukku, the umpires judgement has been slightly been eroded. Clearly this involves human judgement as well.

    Allegations of racism are the signs you are in the neighbourhood a stinking politician -kaiyaalaagadha ella naigallum solra vishayam dhaan idhu. It's amazing that people make these sort of wild allegations and still expect the aussies won't talk to you lovingly from the slips ? Harbhajan is another one. Due to the clout they have acquired in the last decade, teams from the sub-continent are trying to muscle their way through.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thu May 03, 09:58:00 PM  

  • msp,

    Thanks for the response. I am quite aware of such arguments that you've put across. And from my point of view -the matter is quite subjective, and either side would be right or wrong from their own perspective. And I dont think I am as knowledgeable as you are on this particular subject :-) Anyways, your post has prompted me to look for more information on this. Thanks a lot for that :-)

    As for Ranatunga - till now he is the most respected cricket personality in Sri Lanka mainly for the way he handled the entire Murali episode - starting from walking out with his team when Darrel Hair called Murali. When every body at that time thought that would be the end of his career he once again made sure he is capable of handling things more smarter than any one. The task wasnt easier though and he had to go through many challenges and hardships.

    As for the racist comments made by Aussies (post and pre Murali episode), it's all well documented and as a sample I shall directly quote from Roshan Mahanama's auto biography "Retired Hurt" - shortly (ippa kaNNa sozhattittu thookkam varuthu )

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Sat May 05, 12:37:00 AM  

  • fbala and msp,

    "Ghilli's hidden ball" -nu oru puraLi (anEgamaa india-la irunthu) keLembi irukku padicheengaLaa? Read it in the papers today and googled and found some links thereafter. Forum-la post paNNi irukkEn. onnum muzhusA puriyala. What are your views? Can you guys throw some light?

    Hope you've seen these links;




    By Anonymous Roshan, at Sat May 05, 11:56:00 PM  

  • Bala,

    Can I continure discussing about Murali and Aussies here? Need your permission.

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Mon May 07, 05:06:00 PM  

  • Roshan,
    Enna 'permission' nu periya vaarthai ellam use panreenga???
    Go ahead!

    P.S: experts neenga ellam discuss panradha orama ninnu paathuttrukken :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Mon May 07, 05:24:00 PM  

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