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Monday, April 30, 2007

Moonusaami Virundhu

Aandavar viswaroobam in Madurai

Naalaikku poludhu saanju oru moonu mani nerathukku naan saami arul pugundha oru Thevan. Neenga?

Virumaandi on Sun TV tomorrow at 6PM

gurunAdhar Australia/Hong Kong/America Kannan Swamy in the center, Connemara Unit Balakrishnan (Specs), another Connemara Unit saga (black shirt) in Madurai


  • Same here.

    And I got Punnagai mannan VCD :)

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Mon Apr 30, 10:10:00 PM  

  • Misc points.

    a)Madhan's thirai paarvai had a great interview with KH about the making of the movie - does someone know where to find this online? Needs to be archived.

    b)Do the people who vehemently insist that it's copied from some Japanese movie not understand the difference between a narrational technique and the movie itself. Dei vennaigala, use your bird brains.

    c)There is this book - "Kamalahasan , The Consummate Actor" by Roopa Swaminathan. An extract from that "The Hasans belong to Paramkudi, which is full of Thevars and Mudaliars. These communities were known for their hot tempers and incredible loyalties. They either gave their lives or took lives - all for a cause! Charu anna remembers how one of his associates who was a Thevar was hacked to death in his office by a rival Mudaliar.While growing up in Paramkudi, Kamal saw a lot of people being killed because of caste wars" Deep understanding of caste is very evident in the movie, an understanding that enabled Thevar Magan, Virumandi etc and possibly much more in the future. Note to progressive wannabes: Try to understand caste, leaving aside your personal preferences, otherwise you will never be able to appreciate movies like this, heck you won't understand this country ! This factor is also responsible for the raw native feel in the movie.

    d)Pasupathy, Abhirami, Napoleon, andha patti mandram speaker at the bull fight annoucement, that madurai american college vaathiyar who is the jail warden, Andha Poojari,just to name a few - note how strong the supporting cast is. As Valluvar said "Ozhukaaraa kolga oruvan than agathu azhukaaru illadha iyalbu" (azhukaaru: jealousy). Where is Abhirami, BTW ?

    e)Final note to people who say he intereferes too much - if the result of full intereference is this movie, I want more intereference. Kodambakkam irukaravanla directoraada ?

    etc etc ad infinitum

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Mon Apr 30, 11:51:00 PM  

  • Bnb,

    a)Theriyavillai. Will try to get it and if possible upload sometime.

    b)haha. Anda vennainga list-la, naan oru kAlathula irundhaen, vera onnum illa "cribbing"-nu solvanga illa..Adaan pannaen! Actually that was the time I started watching foreign cinema. But seriously, anyone with least bit pretense (if not anything else) of knowing movies should know the difference.

    c) Should get my hands on the book!

    d) Pasupathy - solavae vendam. Nazar would have done that small role brilliantly, and effortlessly without any trace of 'familiarity'. Amazing for a supporting actor who has done many movies. Nazar can do any role. Be the treacherous spoilt brat in MMKR or the naxalite in Kuruthipunal. And Thalaivar seem to be the best in extracting from him!

    e) "Kodambakkam irukaravanla directoraada ?" - Enough I think :-D

    Thalai, yaen ivalo kovum? But I can understand the pain to shut a few idiots in forums, blogs and PFC :)

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Tue May 01, 02:23:00 AM  

  • bnb

    c)This is one thing that amazes me. Kamal left Paramakudi as a kid. After that he was pretty much a Chennaiite (gains encashed from 'Sattam en kayyil' to PKS). But he seems to have absorbed the place and the language much much better than its more celebrated champions.
    Some expressions seen in ThEvar Magan resurface only in VirumANdi. Plenty of films native to the same locale have been made inbetween. They make no significant addition.

    d)The pattimandra speaker is Thirugnanasambandam, a Tamil prof from Thiagaraja Arts College. ('kaalaiyile enna palakAram saaptEnnu maadu sollippudum' :lol:) Didn't know the sub-jailer (Shanmugarajan) was a prof too. I heard he was a National School of D rama grad.

    Kamal is also particular about cast(e)ing people close to the roots. ThEvar Magan's supporting cast were nearly all from Madurai-Ramnad. Hey !Ram casting would need a separate essay :-)

    e) It was a Raajkamal film, written and directd by Kamal. So no 'interference' here :-) Point seconded though.

    By Anonymous msp, at Tue May 01, 03:47:00 AM  

  • Hmmmmmm....May Day is no holiday for Central Government Insti....So no Virumandi for me......:(.............
    Regards point BNB's third point...I think much of the quality and depth is also due to his team...So when he wants to know something abt the place, he gets hold of people who can tell him about it enabling a deep feel...Madan, Raja, Sujatha, Pralayan, Gyanasambandham, Vaali, Vairamuthu , Ananthu....it always pays to have a good team.

    By Blogger mutRupuLLi, at Tue May 01, 11:28:00 AM  

  • Even I wont be able to see Virumandi today due to some reasons beyond my control :-(. Good posts by bnb and msp (athenna 'msp' PR? )

    I have heard about Roopa Swaminathan's book. Geno(from forumhub)has spoken about it a couple times at the hub. inga SL'la kidaikkumAnnu theriyala. I should try when I go to Chennai next time (probably in August .. PR chennaila iruppeengaLaa appO? :-) )

    Bala, padam paathuttu puthusaa oru review pOtturunga. I am sure you'd see something different and new from what you've seen before ( that's the beauty of Kamal movies).

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Tue May 01, 05:04:00 PM  

  • Making of Virumandi:

    That big poojai scene was shot near Mount Road - they created the whole set there.
    Andha book is rather tiny coffee table book type - doesn't do justice.Adhula Vikram romba jokesellam solliyirukkar - I will write about it after some time. Avar dhaan Vaarisaam ...Agree about Nasser - another wasted jenmam in K.Bakkam

    Man Vasanai konjam stronga inhale panni irupaar. Shanmugarajan works for the tamil dept or another fine arts dept in American college. I thought Vadivelu's performance in Thevar Magan was his best till date.

    Amaam, Amaam adhey dhaan naanum solren - adhukellam oru manasu vendum. Should be considered normal, but adha praise panra allavukka, this quality is so rare in other actors.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tue May 01, 11:01:00 PM  

  • Roshan,

    m - NainA peyar
    s - aathA peyar
    PR- en peyar

    I'm known as msp among cousins and friends. Neetti muzhakki sonna AAK Chandran maadhiri aayidum :)

    I'll be back in Madras starting July. So see u in August !

    I read another book by Roopa Swaminatham about SivAji. It was quite unimpressive. Hope the Kamal one is better.

    By Anonymous msp, at Tue May 01, 11:38:00 PM  

  • "Avar dhaan Vaarisaam "
    If he said that, the idiot deserves 1000 spanking and 500 "thoppukarnam" for saying that!

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Wed May 02, 11:57:00 AM  

  • Bala, Virumandi nethu dhaan muzhusa paarthaen. Awesome - except for the climax - Jail sequences konjam sodhappal but Climax takes the cake for sodhappal. Maalan, SUN TV atmosphere ellam kondu vandhu konjam over-aa pochu. As in Anbe Sivam Flashback, it detracts from the movie. (Usual disclaimer here - appadi detract aana movie is thousand times better than what you get normally in TF s0 indha justification ninaivu padutha vendaam nanbrgale).

    Aanal, andha nativity - awesome. Avaru thevar baashai ellam pesaradhu too kooda not that big achievement - the mixed telugu Napoleon's gramam is awesome and perfect - it is not actual telugu it is tamil translated literally into telugu - which is how naickers in TN speak. For example, Napoleon says "okati ledhu" for "Onnum Illai". That is TN telugu. In telugu, they say "emi ledhu" :-). Adhu oru example dhaan. Every telugu dialogue in the movie is similarly reflective of how it is spoken in TN/specifically madurai surroundings. Devar baashai madurai-yai suthi evan venaa pesuvaan - adhu romba prevalent - aanal andha TN telugu is specialised - adhula kooda perfection achive panninadhu really great. Idhu dhaanda Maan Vaasanai nu sollalaam.

    By Anonymous raj, at Wed May 02, 12:55:00 PM  

  • 'Sandiyar' - Enna super title! Vekka vodaame senju, che! Raththam kodhiching!!

    That climax fight scene, a drishti pottu!

    By Blogger Me too, at Wed May 02, 07:22:00 PM  

  • BNB,
    I checkout out the book in Landmark sometime back. Didn't buy it for 2 reasons:
    1) She is a mental fan
    2) The book abounded in cliches and yes, there was this nonsense about Vikram. Also there was a factual error or two

    Many from the Virumaandi cast acted in Paruthiveeran also - Mrs.Kothalathevan, Kothalathevan's mom with the spectacles, Kothalan's "meesai" sidekick with the rasping high-pitched voice (he is the 'comedian' who looks rough but rather timid inside in PV)...
    The casting is so perfect in Virumaandi. Ditto with the performances

    About the interview, agree it was a great interview. Thalaivar will be in full form in that - pent up anger bursting out.
    e.g "Vakkali nu sollama anga pesave mudiyadhu.. ahdu vattara vazhakku"

    "baadu baadu nu solrainga.. baadu ku artham theriyuma avangalukku?
    [Madhan becomes uneasy and says "Therila na vitruvome!" LOL

    Neenga padam paathirundha tension agiruppeenga. Sun TV butchered a lot of scenes - the entire jallikkattu scene including Aandavar intro was cut :(
    Review-a? adhellam msp,BNB,Thilak,Sridhar,Zero domain :)

    Vikram oru sombu.. chinna payan ippadi thaan pesuvaan :)

    ippo dhaan full-a paakkareengala?
    Reg climax: Absolutely! A horrendous last half hour. Infact, there were two editing bloopers
    1) Right when the flashback begins after he says "enakku thookku thandanai illama seyviya?"
    2) One shot in the riot scenes.
    That Telugu thing is news to me, thanks for the info.

    P.S: In 5tricks, Sriman says a dialogue in Telugu which means "oore kai kotti sirikkum". Can you give the Telugu translation for that pliss? :)

    Enakku Virumaandi thaan pidichidhu? :)
    "Aatha aasaya vecha peru Virumaandi nu irukkayila...."

    Climax: periya dhrishti pottu. One of the reasons why the film was only a moderate hit, as against a complete superhit

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed May 02, 08:01:00 PM  

  • BNB,
    Typo... "checkout"=checked out

    "the difference between a narrational technique and the movie itself"
    Exactly. Rashomon was the opposite of Virumaandi in the sense that the former was completely open-ended and philosophical. There is no "right" version or absolute truth (or was there one?) in Rashomon. Infact its speculative to the point of being scary. My feelings were exactly that of the wood cutter - "i haven't heard such a sad/disturbing story before". Each version was more haunting than the other. Mifune's and the Samurai's versions jolted the life out of me - it might not have been a 'rape' after a certain point.

    In Virumaandi, however, the narrative is used just to illustrate the biggest drawback of capital punishment - that a blunder or injustice (based on wrong evidence) cannot be undone. Its not as much about different and contradicting versions as much as it is about omissions and misleadings as observed in Kothalan's version.
    Which version is right is not quite the point in Rashomon as it is in Virumaandi

    Infact, Virumaandi is more similar to The Life Of David Gale than Rashomon. Anyone seen that? I haven't

    Talking about performances, there is a view that Kamal, the actor is not that impressive in the film. I completely disagree. Show me ONE actor who would have 'lived' that role like Aandavar.
    Appatha sethu pora scene - One of the most powerful scenes/performances i have seen. eppo paathaaalum thondai light-a adaikkum, face muscles twicth aagum, i have to resort to subtle subterfuge like whistling or wisecracking to ease the situation :-)
    Yen indha scene solrenna, there is this argument put forward by adhiga prasanga ulaga-cinema pseuds that "why does Kamal have to overdo or over-dramatize scenes. Why does he have to be melodramatic?".

    I will tell them this:
    Watch Marlon Brando in Last Tango In Paris in the scene where he is at his wife's death-bed.
    Roger Ebert says:
    The movie may not contain Brando's greatest performance, but it certainly contains his most emotionally overwhelming scene. He comes back to the hotel and confronts his wife's dead body, laid out in a casket, and he speaks to her with words of absolute hatred--words which, as he says them, become one of the most moving speeches of love I can imagine.

    As he weeps, as he attempts to remove her cosmetic death mask ("Look at you! You're a monument to your mother! You never wore makeup, never wore false eyelashes!"), he makes it absolutely clear why he is the best film actor of all time. He may be a bore, he may be a creep, he may act childish about the Academy Awards--but there is no one else who could have played that scene flat-out, no holds barred, the way he did, and make it work triumphantly.

    I say, watch that scene and watch this scene in Virumaandi. You are an Indian, a Thamizhan at that. Honestly, tell me which scene moved you more? Do rustic Indians react in such a restrained manner in death? Haven't you seen oppaaris?

    Adhavadhu, world cinema paakkarengara perla context-e illama compare panna vendiyadhu.

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed May 02, 09:29:00 PM  

  • One more thing about LAst Tango In Paris - another European art-house movie i didn't quite "get". yen mandaikku yettala...
    "Dei, ennanga da solla vareenga???"

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed May 02, 09:44:00 PM  

  • Nice observation about the Telugu usage Raj.

    Bala,Nice point about Rashomon -Virumaandi. In fact the first screenplay draft of Polanksi's debut Knife in the Water was also written on the same lines -three versions of the same incidnet. And it was the same year as the release of Rashomon.

    Have seen David Gale. There is a similarity the feel when Kate Winslet (the reporter) meets Kevin Spacey (a death row inmate). Theme-wise both movies are about Capital Punishment. But in terms of storyline and narrative there is no connection.

    I remember you talking about Last Tango in this context earlier, still haven't watched it :-( But you are bang on. To expect Virumaandi's grief to be expressed like DCP Raghavan so as to make sense to a 'global audience' would be dumb.

    In fact I don't think the movie can be appreciated on the global scale at all. For instance, the Telugu usage that Raj pointed out is something next to noone will observe. Such richness is made for local appreciation. How is it possible for a subtitle to get across the perfection is Esakki's swearing in the hospital bed ? Wouldn't bother comparing this with the Westlooking crossover(!) spiel up North.

    By Anonymous msp, at Wed May 02, 09:53:00 PM  

  • Super thalai. Great that you mention about Brando's performance.
    Almost every actor from Thalaivar, Nazar, Brando, Sivaji, Deniro, hoffman, Mifune and Pacino cry and weep in their own ways. None of them follow a written code. Out of them, Thalaivar has cried in different ways as he has done more versatile roles. Realism is dependent on how that invokes a reaction from the audience. In that case, none of them has moved me as much as KH.

    And I should mention the court scene, He would have slept in the bench and they wake him up when it's his turn to testify, he gets up with that "completely lost out" look. In fact I was watching out for this scene because one of my friends said, it moved him and he also feels it's one of the moments that Thalaivar alone can do (actually this friend of mine is a harsh KH critic).

    And when people support Lal, I generally don't get it. I've never seen anyone cry, act or behave like him but still they call him the most 'realistic'. Bullshit, I would say!

    Let's just say, 'Ultimo tango a parigi' is an experimental film from Bertolucci to work with Brando. Because it isn't good in my opinion. And even the biggest Brando fan would say it's unimpressive.

    BTW watched 300 paruthiveerargal - Not that happy. Damp squib. Thappi thavara poidAdinga!

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Wed May 02, 10:17:00 PM  

  • Kannan swamy sir madurai-ya????

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Wed May 02, 10:19:00 PM  

  • >> m - NainA peyar
    s - aathA peyar
    PR- en peyar

    I'm known as msp among cousins and friends. Neetti muzhakki sonna AAK Chandran maadhiri aayidum :) >>

    :-) Thanks for clarifying PR.


    SUN TV eppavumE avanga periya V T Vijayan-Lenin-nu neneppula edit paNNuvaanga. EthO thiRamaiyA paNNuRathaa neneppu. SUN TV is always good at sothappufying most expected programs.

    >> Honestly, tell me which scene moved you more? >>

    For me it wasnt the patti's death scene Bala. There were two scenes that moved me the most. One - when Abirami kills herself and her encounter with Pasupathy just before that. 2nd- when Virumandi says about Annalatchumi to Rohini. His innocent way of expressing as to how she tried to reform him. Very short scene but was really moving.

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Wed May 02, 11:57:00 PM  

  • >> I'll be back in Madras starting July. So see u in August ! >>

    oh! thats cool. Don't forget to wear your hat :-)

    By Anonymous Roshan, at Thu May 03, 12:00:00 AM  

  • >>"Aatha aasaya vecha peru Virumaandi nu irukkayila...."
    Enna Bala, "Amma vecha peru Virumaandi irukkaiyila"-nnu-lla varum. Aatha-nnuttaa dappul meening illaama pogudhe!

    I've said this many times, but anyway. Saying that the narrative technique of Virumaandi is inspired from Rashomon is, to put it bluntly, a great disservice to the latter.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thu May 03, 12:07:00 AM  

  • bala, I saw a butchered VCD out of desparation in 2004 August. I am in Hyd and hardly ever visit TN. Good thing is SUN TV butchering and the VCD(thiruttu VCD ninaikkaren) butchering complemented each other so I have (I think) seen the complete movie.
    Re: Bloopers:
    1. I think "Enakku Thookku Thandani." is more of a rhetorical question to drive in to peikaaman that what he is offering (Unaku enna venumo tharen) is an empty platitude because this is precisely the man who played a major part in taking away from Virumandi his one prized procession - Annalakshmi. So the first question is Annalakshmi thiruppi tharuviya?
    Second question he asks about thookku thandanai is to drive home that having taken away the one thing that he prizes most, peikaaman cannot even do something as insignificant to him(virumandi) as rescinding the thookku thandanai - it is more of rhetoric than a serious wish on the part of Virumandi to live. Adhanaala, I dont think it is a blooper.
    2. Endha Riot shot you are referring to as blooper?
    Enakkum Virumandi dhaan pidichudhu as title. Telugu title Potharaju was also good. Potharaju actually refers to a group of people whose profession is similar to janakaraj's in kizhakku Vaasal- self-flagellation(literal). It can be argued that Virumand is the kind of guy who hurts himself as a matter of routine with his actions especially before he meets annalakshmi - until the actual eloping with Annalakshmi, everything that Virumandi does hurts him somehow or other. So whoever thought of that Telugu title made a brilliant choice

    As for Oore kaikotti, cant think of a telugu equivalent - literal translation is Oor antha chappatlu kotti navutharu - but I dontt hink that line has any comic potential in Telugu so it must have been a different prevalent vattara vazhakku kind of statement.
    I didnt see panchathantram. I gave up on Kamal's assembly-line comedies after and during Thenali. MMKR paartha kannaal, %tricks paarpeno? :-)

    By Anonymous raj, at Thu May 03, 06:19:00 AM  

  • msp,
    Knife In The Water was made in 1962 dhaane? Rashomon was in 1950

    About cross-context/culture comparisons, the irony is that the west acknowledges this point but namma medhavingalukku puriya maattengudhu

    "Almost every actor from Thalaivar, Nazar, Brando, Sivaji, Deniro, hoffman, Mifune and Pacino cry and weep in their own ways. None of them follow a written code. Out of them, Thalaivar has cried in different ways as he has done more versatile roles"
    Adhe dhaan.

    idhe madhiri innoru 'allegation' irukku. (deserves a separate post)
    "Why can't Kamal play a 'normal' man or make films without gimmicks or props?"
    - ennatha aolla? Like he hasn't played 'normal' characters.
    idhe aalunga kitta naama kekkalaam, "yenpa Inarritu, Chris Nolan, yen Tarrantino kooda - ivanga ellam non-linear narration nu gimmicks-e nambi poadam edukkaraanga? 'Normal'-a padam edukka vendiyadhu dhaane? Adhayellam aaha oho nu sollittu ippadi pesa vendiyadhu"

    "Kannan swamy sir madurai-ya????"
    - Namma Thala is originally from Thiruvellikeni, but he's been globe-trotting for many years. ippodhaikku U.S la irukkaaru.
    Padam release ku India vandhuruvaaru, apparam vevvera cities la padam paappaaru

    "SUN TV eppavumE avanga periya V T Vijayan-Lenin-nu neneppula edit paNNuvaanga"
    ha ha :)
    BTW, Lenin-Vijayan pirinjuttaangala?

    "2nd- when Virumandi says about Annalatchumi to Rohini."
    andha scene - Total Power!
    And Iliyaan vilayaadiruppaaru

    aahaa... i'm all over the place with my (mis)quotations :)

    "I've said this many times, but anyway. Saying that the narrative technique of Virumaandi is inspired from Rashomon is, to put it bluntly, a great disservice to the latte"
    Amaam amaam

    1) I didn't mean the flashback per se. Just after he says "enakku thookku thandanai illama..." the next frame is that of Aandavar 'waiting' to chase Bala Singh. Though its a freeze frame, you can see a moment where they are still, 'waiting' to run
    2) Riot scene la oru shot la oru police lathi charge panra madhiri irukkum. Appo adi vaanguravaru 'wait' panni adi vaangura madhiri irukkum.

    "Oor antha chappatlu kotti navutharu"
    LOL :)
    chappatlu kotti - idhu dhaan, damn funny :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Thu May 03, 01:05:00 PM  

  • Didn't miss it on Sun TV. The movie is as fresh & enjoyable as the day I watched it in Madurai Ambika theatre on the day of release.
    Everytime I watch it, everytime I find some minute detail, which I would have missed earlier and the admiration over KH grows million folds.

    By Blogger Vignesh, at Thu May 03, 05:29:00 PM  

  • >>Knife In The Water was made in 1962 dhaane? Rashomon was in 1950<<

    OhO oLArittEnA !
    I guess the Polish release of Rashomon coincided the first draft.
    Remember reading about it long back.

    btw KIW, atleast for me, is a "ennangadA solla vareenga" film.

    >>BTW, Lenin-Vijayan pirinjuttaangala?<<
    Lenin is into direction. He made an award film a couple of years back that reminded me of Leoni's comment : " janAdhibadhi award padamnA, jaNAdhibadhi mattum pappAru pOla"

    By Anonymous msp, at Thu May 03, 06:55:00 PM  

  • "yenpa Inarritu, Chris Nolan, yen Tarrantino kooda - ivanga ellam non-linear narration nu gimmicks-e nambi poadam edukkaraanga? 'Normal'-a padam edukka vendiyadhu dhaane? Adhayellam aaha oho nu sollittu ippadi pesa vendiyadhu"

    YES :) I found such hoots to be dishonest. I've avoided further discourse as I'm sick and tired already.

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Thu May 03, 06:59:00 PM  

  • msp,
    Atleast KIW was interesting...

    Awaiting your post on the same :)

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Sat May 05, 09:34:00 PM  

  • raj:
    Maalan-TV interview ending was sodhappal. But the jail riot was top class.
    The violence was palpable - yaarukavadhu tasteful violence appadinna enna
    appadinnu theriyanumna - indha padatha paarkanum. I think the jail riot scene
    can stand upto any riot scene in any of the top movies. I was so thrilled while watching this
    I inadvertently ended up using some Senthamizh and my aatha 'karumam, karumam'-nu nethila
    adichu kittaago ;-)

    About Nayakars even Gabutain is a Nayakkar, the southern districts have lots
    of them. They are first class Tamil citizens, and speak a form of Telugu that the
    Telugus from AP are not too fond of. Rajapalayam esp - lots of Telugu people. Nayakkars
    Maduraikku neraiya panni irukkanga. This kind of tension between between people of
    Telugu origin and others in the southern districts would not be known, for instance to Mani Ratnam ;-)

    This movie in general flipped the bit for me - I realised that nobody was in his class. I think the movie is a trendsetter,
    and directors like Ameer have gotten a clue or two. Again, like Raj pointed out romba nuances paarthu panniyirukkar. Like msp says,eppadi ivlo absorb pannaar enbadhu adhisayam dhaan. Pakkathula pona jadhagamey solliruvaro ? Does anyone know how the script was developed for the movie and if there were any other people involved ?

    correct, Shanmugarajan is also NSD graduate. Very fine actor - paavam avaru
    Vishal padathulayellam act panni romba talent wate-a poyitrikku. Parpom, Bala padathula edhavadhu chance kuduthurukaarannu theriyala.

    Rasigargal padam super. Eppa eduthadhu padam ? Indha bloggers, NRIs ellam konjam ooru paakam anuppi vaiyunga.Nalla neevi viduvainga ;-)

    About Rashmon, no doubt it's a great work. Andha simplicity, stark narrative ellam hall mark of a great director dhaan. But our knee jerk reactionary critics stretch it too far. Avanga oorulayam sami vandhavanga kitta pesara madhiri adhula kaaturaanga - appa adhu over actinga ? Appa maatum adhu yen oru quaint oriental traditionaaga maarudhu ?
    Appatha scene seriya soneenga - chancey-illa. The problem is some people go in expecting the movie to play to their preconceived notions - when it becomes a little too raw they turn
    against it. Andha pasanga ippadi dhaan paa. Do you expect him to potray a stiff-lipped british royal ? Saavu Veedu, Kalayana Veedu ellathulayam sandai, sandiyarthanam, sallithanam dhaan - dei, ennada pannanum solreenga ?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sat May 05, 10:07:00 PM  

  • Bala,

    They are too stubborn to realize what we say, It's of no use.

    Like Bnb said, NRIs should go to our villages. And funny that those who have been to villages, have gone abroad and now started cribbing, not just over Ooran movies but any thalaivar movie. Some idiots use this blog just to diss. Not that I won't. But still, they do it sadistically for no reason at all. Maybe to irritate the fans. huh, leave the irritation. It's just getting repulsive.

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Mon May 07, 02:20:00 AM  

  • aaha, sontha oorukku vantha feeling inga.

    I bought the dvd, but the print was bad. and missed some in the beginning on Tues. But thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

    That last scene where he cries in the TV interview, was such a fine piece of acting.

    By Blogger Munimma, at Tue May 08, 03:44:00 AM  

  • Correction above.

    not "this blog" but "blogging"

    By Blogger Thilak pratap selva kumar, at Tue May 08, 04:56:00 PM  

  • BNB,
    Rasigargal padam super. Eppa eduthadhu padam ? Indha bloggers, NRIs ellam konjam ooru paakam anuppi vaiyunga.Nalla neevi viduvainga ;-)"

    Madurai la Virumaandi release appo eduthadhu. Enakkum oor la poi Aandavar padam paakkanum nu remba aasai. Chinna pullayila Pudhukkottai la paathadhu, avalavu nyabagam illai...

    "Avanga oorulayam sami vandhavanga kitta pesara madhiri adhula kaaturaanga - appa adhu over actinga ? Appa maatum adhu yen oru quaint oriental traditionaaga maarudhu ? "
    Adhe dhaan. Infact, Kurosawa films are characterized by very theatrical acting, what we call 'overacting' - they call it kabuki style or something.

    "Maybe to irritate the fans"
    avanga panraangalo illiyo,
    nAlu mental fans-a veruppEthardhunnA edhuvumE thappu illa Selva, edhuvumE thappilla!

    "I bought the dvd, but the print was bad. and missed some in the beginning on Tues"
    Its interesting and pleasantly surprising that you (like Raj) liked the movie even after watching a bad print with cut scenes. I was afraid the film would appear to be incoherent and chaotic

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Wed May 09, 09:21:00 AM  

  • bala, its not very surprising that the film appealed ispite of the bad print. The USP of the movie is its mann vasanai - thevar magan had it too but it was more of a Godfather adaptation and less of a tamizhnattu mannin, indha madurai manidhargalin vaazhakai muraiyai padivu seyyum cinema. In the sense tht while it captured the essence of mann vaasanai, the greater fun was in reading between the lines for Godffather parallels.
    Virumandi exuded the fragrance of the madurai mannu and as I noted before, it is not only the Thevar baahsaia nd customs, but the attention to Telugu of nayakara and the casual madras slang in the Chennai Jail - and teh effortless and flawless way each actorexuded the background of his character - look at scenes where the telugu guy who gets killed after virumandi apologises to him. That guy while speaking in an approximation of thevar thamizh to virumandi, simultaneously slips into that customized telugu to his family. The switch as natural as it would be in a real life when you interact with two persons of different background simultaneously. Like, when I am on phone with my hindi speaking team member and my child disturbs me, the switch between tamil and english is so effortless and unconscious. You can smell the same in these scenes.

    By Anonymous raj, at Mon May 14, 01:01:00 PM  

  • Raj,
    Yes mann vasanai niraindhadhu but naan first time Chennai Rohini theatre (bad sound system) la paathapave konjam apprehensive a irundhen, mathavangalukku eppadi irukkumo nu.. 'cos "sound" is also an important element in the film.

    That guy while speaking in an approximation of thevar thamizh to virumandi, simultaneously slips into that customized telugu to his family
    Actually Kondarasu Kounder speaks Tamil with a kongu accent, not the Thevar slang. Agree with his transition, though

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Mon May 14, 05:57:00 PM  

  • small correction:
    The Rasigar photos were taken in Trichy (cut-out) and Chennai, respectively. Error is regretted :(

    By Blogger Bala (Karthik), at Mon May 14, 05:58:00 PM  

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